Or, maybe I should say the extremely pissed off infertile is back. I had a similar encounter today with my old RE clinic as Polly had Monday. I like how she said it - "What kind of monkey shop are you running here??"
A little background:
We are finally nearing the end of un-medicated, pretending to be normal people and are within weeks of beginning our next, and third, IVF with our new RE - Dr. K. I called my new nurse today, sweet Rita, to make an appointment to discuss our protocol. Turns out, R needs a semen analysis with their lab, so Rita and I scheduled that appointment. Dr. K couldn't see me the same day, so my appointment is Tuesday (R's is Friday). Then, Rita tells me that my old RE has yet to send the remainder of my file to them and they haven't sent anything over on R. SERIOUSLY? I requested his 12/1 and mine weeks before that.
I hang up with Rita and call the old RE to leave a message - because they never answer the freaking phone. This chick calls me back (during my weekly team call and I have to put my manager on hold) and says, "We've sent your information 3 times now. You have to re-fax your medical release (don't worry - when I sent it over the first 3 times I put an expiration date of like 6.1.09 - but, noooo...they need it again). I argued with her, but basically gave in to get my boss off of hold. Whatever. So, I send it back after explaining to her that she would not need to send me my records for a 4th time if they'd just included everything the first time. 15 minutes later I get this email:
Good day Ms. R's wife,
As per our phone conversation a moment ago, I will need to have a new "Signed Medical Record Release Form" (see attachment) from you indicating "Infectious Disease" in order for us to provide that information again. Additionally may I suggest that you allow us to send your records to you directly so that you can copy and distribute as needed.
I am sorry that you appear to be dissatisfied with our process. Our records show that we provided your Medical Records as per your request on the following dates:
08/18/2008
10/29/2008
12/01/2008
Your request below would represent the 4th. time we would be requested to provide your records and your further request via phone earlier that this be provided immediately is unfortunately not possible. For your protection and in observance of HIPPA LAWS, we do not keep hard copies of patients medical records once a request has been satisfied. I will process your additional request once the completed attachment is returned to us at 770-WE-SUCK. Remember that our standard processing time is 5 business days.
Have a wonderful day.
Dumb Ass
NO. SHE. DIDN'T. My blood pressure must have been 800 over 500. "I am sorry that you appear to be dissatisfied with our process" - appear? Sweetheart, if you don't know I am dissatisfied (is that a word? or is it unsatisfied??) maybe you are the one who needs to see a doctor. She also copied her boss on the email, who was surprisingly out of the office today. Go figure. On a side note, I had called my old IVF nurse there twice by this time, asking for her help. It's 8:45 PM now, and she still hasn't called back. I find it hard to believe she was that busy. Anyway, my response:
Dumb and Dumber -
The release form I just faxed in today is for infectious diseases for both my husband and me.
I AM dissatisfied - with the entire practice. I started this infertility journey over 2 years ago and was referred to your practice with a glowing recommendation from my OB/GYN. From the beginning, my calls were always taken at your convenience and my questions were answered with as little detail as possible. In January of last year when I first visited {Insert Old RE here}, my diagnosis was viewed as "very easily solved". After a chemical pregnancy in March, I was given little comfort or information on what exactly was happening with my body. After 1 failed IVF attempt, I was told at 29 that the only way I would ever get pregnant was by donor egg. After that IVF, I basically had to tell my doctors what protocol I wanted to use and what route I wanted to take - try IVF again or go back to IUI. What had seemed at the outset a very "easy" problem to solve became a doom and gloom situation every time I spoke to someone at your office. From the first blood test results, every encounter I had with anyone on you staff was a negative experience.
While this is a job for you and you are around hormone enraged women every day on their life's quest to become a Mother, this is MY LIFE. My husband and I are trying to grow our family with very little success - something no one ever dreams would happen. I've wanted to be a mother from the day I was born and your practice has, in so many words, told me that I will never have a biological child of my own. As I try to move on with my life and away from your practice, I continue to have negative experiences. All I want is my ENTIRE medical information from your practice - including my husband's. An ENTIRE medical information pack would include items such as:
Infectious Diseases
Cystic Fibrosis Testing
Semen Analysis
Lab Log
Procedure Documentation
Any other records you have about me or my spouse - since I am not a medical professional - I may not know the medical jargon
While becoming a mother has been a struggle for me, THIS shouldn't be a struggle - to obtain my medical information that you have at your practice. I should not have to be a medically trained professional to request an entire medical information package from my experiences as your patient.
I have had to continue to request this information because you have either not provided it to Dr. K at my request or you did not provide my entire file to me when I requested it be sent to me. If you will just send me every ounce of information you have on me or my spouse, I can move on with my life and not ever have to deal with {Insert Old RE here} again.
Please send all information to me at 867-5309 **(don't you love my number??)** as I requested in my Medical Release Form fax today.
Thank you (I really wanted to close with Eat Shit - but, you know, in the kindest way possible),
Tara
Really people? You're protecting me by not giving me or my new RE the records we need to move forward? HIPPA can kiss my ass - I think my email requesting this information MULTIPLE times would pass an audit. Also infuriating is the fact that you basically have to be a friggin' doctor to request your "Entire Medical Record" by asking for specific things. People, I have an accounting degree. Give me some numbers - I am cool. Give me some bullshit Latin term that means something as universal as "Hello" and I am lost and I don't care about finding my way back. If its fucking rocket science to request your medical records, why not give your patients a list with items to check off that they may want on the medical release form? Is it not suffice to say - "Hey - I'm leaving your practice. You have wasted an entire year of my life and I have been miserable every single time I've had to see your face, speak your name, see your number on my caller ID or hear your latest string of bad news - please give me my medical file so I can take it to a doctor that might actually be able to get me pregnant."
Well, I feel better. I told you - SHE'S BAAAAAAAAACK.....
**Update - my old IVF nurse did actually call me back yesterday. I just didn't check my voicemail until midnight last night. I hate voicemail, so it's a wonder I even checked it then. So, maybe she doesn't suck quite as bad as I thought.
Who am I kidding? She's the one who said to me over the summer - "Well, at least you know you've tried everything possible." (This was before we tried IVF for the 2nd time. Really? 1 failed IVF lady? With no fertilization and no chance to even SEE if my body would accept some embys? Yep...she still sucks.
Yes, without a doubt....SHE'S BACK! Welcome home, ol' girl!!!
11 comments:
I'm so sorry you have to deal with this. Some times I get frustrated with my RE too. I am an accountant as well. I wonder if that has something to do with it? Maybe I just have a bad RE too.
I hope your experience with your new RE is better.
Dear. God.
As if there isn't enough to be worrying about.
I really hope your new RE is much better, although, that won't be hard hey?
Hugs
S X
Oh what a painful process!...excellent response letter. It's hard enough fighting IF without having the office staff make it more difficult.
Good luck with your new RE...I hope the new group is a bit more responsible.
I hate fighting with offices about medical records. I requested copies of my records from my ob/gyn a total of three times for copies of my records to keep for myself, and they gave me three bs excuses each time. Take a guess if I ever got those records... go ahead. Stupid ob/gyn.
Sorry they're such jerks.
Good for you! That is a horrible way to treat people. They really need to pull the stick out and just do their jobs. So sorry you have to go through this. I hope the new place treats you better.
Hmmm - sounds exactly like dealing with my old RE's office. Only they could never find my chart when I wen't for appointments, so it wasn't much surprise that they couldn't get my records to me...
I hope the new clinic is waaaayyy better!
Wow-that is so infuriating and just as you said, you really don't need any more on top of what you've dealt with. Your letter really illustrates where you are and your concerns. I'm curious to hear their response, if there is one.
I completely agree that "this" should not be the hard part of this process. How freaking hard is it to take everything in a file (electronic and/or paper copies) and provide that information to it's rightful owner? And while we're at it, why does this process take so long?!? It's just a Xerox, people!!
Hugs, Tara. Great response and I hope you see some action. I'm glad you're "back". (-;
This gets my blood boiling just reading it! It sounds exactly like the bass ackwards encounters I've had with my clinic ... don't they get that this is equivalent to running you over with a bus?
ARGH! It's so frustrating ... but I love how you stood up for yourself in the email/letter and that you made it clear that this is a job for them, but YOUR LIFE. I'll bet they don't cry themselves to sleep on their pillows each night, just thinking about all that they don't have.
And I'm glad she's back - sometimes we gotta just stick up for ourselves.
Your response is incredible, my hat is tipped towards you!
I hope they got you the info you need.
"Jenny, Jenny, who can I turn to?" :)
I hate the whole business. The friggin' thing!
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